SEA Crisis with my paladin level 40 not sure anymore XD.

[FinalHoly]

Hello i reached level 40 on my Paladin a few days ago. Originally i have been losing interest in my physical paladin( Aiming for guardian). But after divine avatar still not convinced whether i want to continue it.

I think the reason is guardian is defensive and i dont believe can either tank or have the patience to play defensive. I only played dragon nest for 3 months and still finding my feet.

I mostly pve, not a pvp person although i do play for fun when bored but i never good at it anyways. Also i am bad at combing, hence in street fighter why i struggle there.

Strange problem is i have been a melee person but this game it could mean the opposite i could be bad at melee here but magic suit me here XD.

To get to the point, i am not a good defensive person or a great combo especially with my pings since i live in europe which is bad for sea servers, so is guardian still right for me XD, i like the offensive side to guardian as in the kicks and smite and amour break but i hate the defensive but useful at pve but i am more attacking minded person then defense.

So i wonder if crusader is more suited to me as its more kicking and skills in involved but sub tanking as i dont think i got the mind or patience for a tanker.

I got a priest alt, that no doubt making inqustor since i wont be able to stand being a healer, plus it looks fun to me XD which puts my paladin to stand really a little bit.

D : Anyways i am confused now, dont know whether its worth having paladin as main now XD or switch my paladin to a hybrid magic/physical crusader but worried about cost but i am sure guardian o.o expensive with the plates XD.

Thanks if you answer.

[Espei]

Don't get kicks if you want to switch to Crusader. Sacred Hammering will become your new infinite combo skill which is also ping friendly... :P

Guardian would be expensive with kick plates so Crusader shouldn't be too bad when you remove the kicks. Look up Xiao's guide for Crusader.

I find it pretty easy to go into offensive as a Guardian but you do only get a few skills but I like kicking so it works out. And when you mention the lag issues... well, you don't definitely won't die if you lag a few seconds. Either class will be okay.

If you had been building a physical Paladin it might be a pain to switch to getting Magic/Light on your stuff but assuming you're getting new armour set, shouldn't be too bad.

[Ramida]

Crusader to be here...
even before OBT, I've already decided to ba a Paladin... Being a Crusader just followed...

here's my experience:
At Lv 24 Cap, I was a kickadin full STR Elf Queen... I really liked how straight forward it was...
Armor Break, kick, kick, kick, evade, kick, kick, repeat...
I went kickadin back then just to have a feel of how it was...

But since I'm going crusader, I'm now focusing on my INT/STR/Light...
Took off my kick plates and switched them for Crusader Tree plates...

Crusader's main DPS are the Light skills...
Guardians use the Light skills for utility, like Zap (electrocution), Smite, Holy Bolt (Crowd control)...

[Alxx]

let me add a side-question: is the kickadin build necessary to be an effective guardian? it's kinda boring if all you gotta do is kick kick kick. im also a paladin going guardian and since we got less flashy skill animations, making use of other skills look pretty okay. i'm patient but kicking all the way is killing the fun.

[FinalHoly]

I see, so crusader dps is scared hammer and light attacks but guardian is just kicks right?

You said guardian can be offensive too, even though they have to block and tank more in later squads . I must say not happy about the kicks really, they are kind of pricy for me , especially getting 2 of the kicks. But then again everything is expensive on sea to me , well at least its not bad as sm gears .

Okay right now i am mainly using sacred hammer + smite + zap and smite for crowd control in my farming and killing, but for bosses i use smite , zap and kick and avatar and holy bolt if they move too much xD.

O.O I was surprised when you said crusader isnt expensive when you don't have the kick plates which guardian need more. Does that mean its the kicks that make paladin expensive >.>.

I am still confused, i will read up the crusader guide, whats important is i am offensive person, always have been, always been terrible at defending in every game i played even street fighter, when i am defensive i get dominated. Well the bright side is, the defensive side is pve xD, so i hope the SDN inst smart as humans, but yeah i definitely enjoy offensive way more then defense.

[Ramida]

Paladin have long Cool Downs/not so many offensive skills...
therefore they must resort to other means while waiting for those skills to cool: (unless you're willing to wait for them)
Crusaders go for Sacred Hammering since it's Matk based..
Guardians go for kicks since it's Patk based..

Crusaders mainly go for INT because 3 of their tree skills (Holy Relic, Zap, Sacred Hammering) are Matk based...
also all skills in the Crusader tree are Light attacks, so that's the reason for Light stacking...
(from Holy Relic all the way to Judgement Hammer)

Guardians go Physical... Do remember Justice Crash is a Physical attack skill.
Armor Break is your best friend since it lowers physical def...
Kicks is your way to go when skill are on CD..
Smite is always good for any build...

Usually the Guardians without kick plates are the full tank builds...
(going for plates like Provoke, Heal, Divine Avatar/HoG, etc)

sorry it's kinda messy...

[FinalHoly]

Originally Posted by Ramida

Paladin have long Cool Downs/not so many offensive skills...
therefore they must resort to other means while waiting for those skills to cool: (unless you're willing to wait for them)
Crusaders go for Sacred Hammering since it's Matk based..
Guardians go for kicks since it's Patk based..

Crusaders mainly go for INT because 3 of their tree skills (Holy Relic, Zap, Sacred Hammering) are Matk based...
also all skills in the Crusader tree are Light attacks, so that's the reason for Light stacking...
(from Holy Relic all the way to Judgement Hammer)

Guardians go Physical... Do remember Justice Crash is a Physical attack skill.
Armor Break is your best friend since it lowers physical def...
Kicks is your way to go when skill are on CD..
Smite is always good for any build...

Usually the Guardians without kick plates are the full tank builds...
(going for plates like Provoke, Heal, Divine Avatar/HoG, etc)

sorry it's kinda messy...

So basically there isn't too much difference except crusader is magic/phy but some few more magic moves and guardian is physical had another physical and more.

Anyways I have decided to give paladin a break and level up priest. Priest just looks more fun and I play games for fun, I tried to train the paladin but I won't delete it cause it can be a great alt for later.

By the way right now I play alone. Guild is useless since I live in Europe most guild are like my and sg that includes friends. They never respond eithe afk or at nests or offline. That's excatly what I expected and I will leave soon and go guild less, that's probably why I picked clerics to solo becaus I am so used to solo every game by myself. Only s4 and runescape I had friends and guild that helped me or even talk. On dn only
One person is talking to me and helping me on my priest and he is European probably explains why he is more helpful.

Anyways thanks I know that guardian more suited for me but I will go for different class that I find more interesting which is inqustor. Don't care about cost I will do the best i can because of I enjoy it then cost is nothing.

[Xiaozilu]

Saders are way more expensive to build than guardians, since you have to stack m-dmg,light-attk and crit at the same time, not to mention FD. I saw yesterday a lv50 health crest with FD as 3rd stat sells for like over $200 in the cDN market. Well that's just for end-game consideration. I use all blue gears,24+32 crest, and can solo manti hell without problem.

[Espei]

Originally Posted by Alxx

let me add a side-question: is the kickadin build necessary to be an effective guardian? it's kinda boring if all you gotta do is kick kick kick. im also a paladin going guardian and since we got less flashy skill animations, making use of other skills look pretty okay. i'm patient but kicking all the way is killing the fun.

It's not necessary but between kicks and normal attacks... your kicks will do more damage. When you couple that with kick plates your attack speed is on equal grounds. Though to be honest in regular dungeons if I use my other skills (ie. Smite, Armor Break) most mobs are usually dead? :P

And yeah, I forgot about the crit and FD for Crusaders. Any DPS class can get expensive if you want to be good... As a Guardian who's main role is to tank I don't care much for crit or FD and instead I stack VIT, HP, and def/mdef. But as you said your guild is mostly asleep when you play; then a more offensive branch would be suitable in terms of dungeon/soloing.

I guess EU is IP blocked from NA? We'd welcome you with open arms. ^^

[FinalHoly]

Originally Posted by Xiaozilu

Saders are way more expensive to build than guardians, since you have to stack m-dmg,light-attk and crit at the same time, not to mention FD. I saw yesterday a lv50 health crest with FD as 3rd stat sells for like over $200 in the cDN market. Well that's just for end-game consideration. I use all blue gears,24+32 crest, and can solo manti hell without problem.

Thanks for that. Well i already decided to not consider Saders XD, and that made my choice easier. Anyways i decided to take a break from paladin and train up priest but i am still going to use paladin in the future just might not be a main, cause i need a change and priest looks more interesting to me.

Originally Posted by Espei

It's not necessary but between kicks and normal attacks... your kicks will do more damage. When you couple that with kick plates your attack speed is on equal grounds. Though to be honest in regular dungeons if I use my other skills (ie. Smite, Armor Break) most mobs are usually dead? :P

And yeah, I forgot about the crit and FD for Crusaders. Any DPS class can get expensive if you want to be good... As a Guardian who's main role is to tank I don't care much for crit or FD and instead I stack VIT, HP, and def/mdef. But as you said your guild is mostly asleep when you play; then a more offensive branch would be suitable in terms of dungeon/soloing.

I guess EU is IP blocked from NA? We'd welcome you with open arms. ^^

:C Yeah shame. Thanks i think i will stick to physical paladin, as for main well i am taking a break from paladin and train up priest, just want a more interesting main :O. Inqustor looks interesting, but first i will train up priest ^_^, but i will keep paladin in case xD i will come back, besides it will be an fantastic alt to have. Inqustor can be my attacking(oh yeah its not going to be pure dps cause priest isnt really dps, so yeah i will have support hence why for cap 40 i will go full support first ^_^) and guardian can be my defensive XD.