NA Whats happening?

[Tajirii]

So I started to play this game with a few friends recently. We all chose different classes so that we can help each other level and share gears evenly based on the class of the user. I opted for swordsman as its looked fun and I have always be a hack and slash kinda guy. Sadly as we progress and level I am finding that they are able to out damage anything I can try for by 10x fold. The Priest, Elementalist and Sharpshooter are able to destroy a boss in no time and it takes me about 3x as long to do the same thing.

I am currently level 26, wearing an entire set of epic +8 gears (all brutal except gloves which are sturdy), I have 16.8k HP and 12.9k SP and 600+ STR. I do fine on my own but they seem to excel beyond anything I can do. Will this change at some point or am I doomed to walk the path of the player who never gets the final shot on bosses? LOL. The priest player in our group is able to kill fast and never seems to lose much of his HP bar. We do the Dimensional Rabbit stage (not sure of the name) and get to the final four bosses and I get rocked with damage and he finished with full HP. How is this?

I don't plan on leaving the path of the swordsman but at the same time I want something that I can power hit with. What should I do?

[EndlessEcho]

Originally Posted by Tajirii

So I started to play this game with a few friends recently. We all chose different classes so that we can help each other level and share gears evenly based on the class of the user. I opted for swordsman as its looked fun and I have always be a hack and slash kinda guy. Sadly as we progress and level I am finding that they are able to out damage anything I can try for by 10x fold. The Priest, Elementalist and Sharpshooter are able to destroy a boss in no time and it takes me about 3x as long to do the same thing.

I am currently level 26, wearing an entire set of epic +8 gears (all brutal except gloves which are sturdy), I have 16.8k HP and 12.9k SP and 600+ STR. I do fine on my own but they seem to excel beyond anything I can do. Will this change at some point or am I doomed to walk the path of the player who never gets the final shot on bosses? LOL. The priest player in our group is able to kill fast and never seems to lose much of his HP bar. We do the Dimensional Rabbit stage (not sure of the name) and get to the final four bosses and I get rocked with damage and he finished with full HP. How is this?

I don't plan on leaving the path of the swordsman but at the same time I want something that I can power hit with. What should I do?

Um... you can't compare an SM's dps to an EL or SS. However, a priest out dpsing you is something weird. I think they are just ridiculously geared.

Also, they are probably lvl 32 with 32 sets?

[Koroem]

I have a 32 priest and a 32 swordsman and noticed the same thing. Swordsman damage is just low at this point in the game unless you have a high end crit build. They get better later on I suppose, but my priest is my main so I won't be finding out first hand for a while. I know there are SMs that have godly stats and do much better dps then my priest, but with average gear, a SM does fall behind due to the nature of the skills damage types, especially if you are going the magic route and haven't built for crit at this point.

[Tajirii]

Originally Posted by EndlessEcho

Also, they are probably lvl 32 with 32 sets?

He is a level 24 priest with a White Lion gear set all +9/+10. I am completely baffled as to how he is doing better then me. I am wondering if the lightning rod skill he uses is dealing elemental damage to the enemy and that is how he is killing so fast. He is not doing more melee DPS then me as he stays back most of the time.

I have noticed that the elemental damage of the other classes far outshines the melee damage we SM's deal. It pitiful. I am constantly in the face of the bosses, swinging away and only taking pitiful amounts of its life away where as they can come in and deal an entire life bar in 1 hit with an elemental skill. Oh and I'm 2 levels ahead of the others in my party yet still I am the lower damage dealer on a boss. It sucks.

[EndlessEcho]

Originally Posted by Tajirii

He is a level 24 priest with a White Lion gear set all +9/+10. I am completely baffled as to how he is doing better then me. I am wondering if the lightning rod skill he uses is dealing elemental damage to the enemy and that is how he is killing so fast. He is not doing more melee DPS then me as he stays back most of the time.

I have noticed that the elemental damage of the other classes far outshines the melee damage we SM's deal. It pitiful. I am constantly in the face of the bosses, swinging away and only taking pitiful amounts of its life away where as they can come in and deal an entire life bar in 1 hit with an elemental skill. Oh and I'm 2 levels ahead of the others in my party yet still I am the lower damage dealer on a boss. It sucks.

I've noticed that I shouldn't have sold by lvl 24 rare set. Hiddens are probably the most important part for gear. My 32 allegro gear doesn't do as much damage as my 24 gear.

He may have ridiculous hiddens and crests.

And yeah, SMs are a bit gimp compared to mercs. However, SMs get better when 50 comes out imo.

[Cobiwan]

Originally Posted by EndlessEcho

However, SMs get better when 50 comes out imo.

Luring slice gives you a nice boost too at level 26...
Same with level 40 should you get infinity edge, that is not a weak skill.

[Gammaray]

SMs were never really meant for PvE specifically, unless you happen to be a Moonlord with hax gears or something. This is since the skills are divided into physical and magical trees, and using only one tree isn't enough. Especially if you happen to focus on the physical tree.
This is why people go for Moonlord, I think; if you raise your magic attack your physical attack is still fine, but if you focus on physical attack your magic becomes practically dysfunctional. Also because Gladiator is so obviously gimped in PvE (only EX skill without extra damage, Finish Attack has worst attack%) that it looks funny.

[Koroem]

Originally Posted by Tajirii

He is a level 24 priest with a White Lion gear set all +9/+10. I am completely baffled as to how he is doing better then me. I am wondering if the lightning rod skill he uses is dealing elemental damage to the enemy and that is how he is killing so fast. He is not doing more melee DPS then me as he stays back most of the time.

I have noticed that the elemental damage of the other classes far outshines the melee damage we SM's deal. It pitiful. I am constantly in the face of the bosses, swinging away and only taking pitiful amounts of its life away where as they can come in and deal an entire life bar in 1 hit with an elemental skill. Oh and I'm 2 levels ahead of the others in my party yet still I am the lower damage dealer on a boss. It sucks.

Yes the elemental aspect helps the damage, but only in part. It has more to do with magic damage being far more effective in general in PVE than physical damage. Plus it is very easy for other classes like Priests and ELs to build magic attack and elemental bonus potentials that effect their damage. Getting the same on SM/warrior gear is much harder. That is why a good majority of SMs and Mercs go for crit builds at this stage in the game. Crit will get you far better damage then trying to build higher dmg/str or mdmg/int. Plus Crit works for both magic damage and physical damage, so all SM skills benefit from it.

I would really suggest looking into a crit build if you are unhappy with your current setup.
Here is a useful read for you:
http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/21...aad7313-1.html

[AldanaBenni]

I have a 32 priest and a 32 swordsman and noticed the same thing.

[andrewpcga]

Go for the critical build and you'll be just fine.